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印度的近代教育发展(印度学校教历史到1947年或1950年结束)

印度的近代教育发展(印度学校教历史到1947年或1950年结束)然后,进入大学后,我们必须学习一门印度文化史的学分课程,这让我们对印度次大陆终于有了一些了解。Then in college a compulsory single credit Cultural History of India came up which threw some light on what Indian subcontinent actually was.只到1947年?在那之前的历史都是乱教的好么!As students of a CBSE school we started with the Harappan civilisation in class 6 and ended with Indian independence in class 8. That's it! I don't even remember 25% of what was

Why does history of India taught in school stops at 1947 or 1950 and not any further is taught even after India fought 8 major wars with China Pakistan Portugal Nizam of Hyderabad and Maldives?

为什么学校里教的印度历史只到1947年或1950年就结束了,甚至连印度与中国、巴基斯坦、葡萄牙、海得拉巴的尼扎姆和马尔代夫之间的8次战争都没有提及?

印度的近代教育发展(印度学校教历史到1947年或1950年结束)(1)

以下是Quora读者的评论:

Sourav Adhikari MSc Mathematics and Computing

1947? Even the history before that hasn't been taught properly!

只到1947年?在那之前的历史都是乱教的好么!

As students of a CBSE school we started with the Harappan civilisation in class 6 and ended with Indian independence in class 8. That's it! I don't even remember 25% of what was taught and it was taught in such a way that we always wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible.

作为CBSE学校的学生,我们从6年级开始学习哈拉帕文明,8年级学到印度独立后就结束了。就这样!我连25%的教学内容都记不住,而且老师的教学方式真心实力劝退学生。

Then in college a compulsory single credit Cultural History of India came up which threw some light on what Indian subcontinent actually was.

然后,进入大学后,我们必须学习一门印度文化史的学分课程,这让我们对印度次大陆终于有了一些了解。

I came to know that the concept of Protestantism (not the Christian movement but the protest against established religious practices) came way before the British adapted it in the 16th century (reason behind Anglo-Spanish war of 1585). The religions of Jainism and Buddhism were the pioneers of Protestantism and they started it in the later Vedic period.

我逐渐了解到新教的概念(不是基督教运动,而是反对既定宗教惯例的抗议)在16世纪英国人改信新教之前就已经出现了(1585年英西战争的原因)。耆那教和佛教是新教的先驱,它们是在吠陀后期开始出现的。

The reins of Houses of Cholas and Nandas and few others are almost absent! Heck Bay of Bengal was called Chola Lake!! If it weren't for a quiz I would never have known.

乔拉和南达以及其他少数几个家族的统治几乎无人提及!见鬼,孟加拉湾叫乔拉湖!!如果不是为了考试,我永远都不会知道。

Now coming to modern India. Even if the history teaching stops at 1947 we are unaware of significant numbers of national heroes. The New Sunday Express carried a nice article regarding that.

现在来说说现代印度。历史学科的教学止于1947年,我们也不知道有多少民族英雄。,新的星期日快报刊登了一篇很好的文章。

It had information about personalities like Rani Gaidinliu whose names I had not heard since my ears grew. It felt as if the whole North-Eastern India was entirely ignored during scripting NCERT history books.

它介绍了关于像拉尼·盖丁刘这样的人物的信息,自从我长大后,我就再也听不到他的名字了。感觉好像整个印度东北部在编写国家科学院历史书的过程中被完全忽视了。

Same goes for the brave Indians who fought both the World Wars.

勇敢的印度人也一样,尽管他们参加了两次世界大战。

We seldom find names of personalities like Sri Aurobindo Swami Vivekananda et al in Government welfare schemes whereas I can name at least 3-4 infrastructural establishments named after Rajiv Gandhi.

我们很少能在政府福利计划中找到像Sri Aurobindo,Swami Vivekananda等名人的名字,而我能说出至少3-4个以拉吉夫·甘地命名的基础设施机构。

Post independence India is as you said is non-existent!

正如你所说,独立后的印度是不存在的!

The reason?

原因是什么?

History of a nation is shaped by the go nment that controls it. For majority of the period after independence we have had Congress or Congress led go nments. The textbooks became a form of propaganda to teach students nothing but of the Nehru-Gandhi legacy. After all jiski lathi uski bhens (The buffalo belongs to the one with a stick).

一个国家的历史是由控制它的政府塑造的。在独立后的大部分时间里,我们的政府是国大党或国大党牵头的。教科书成了一种宣传形式,只教授学生尼赫鲁·甘地的功绩。

Navish Agarwal M.S. Manufacturing University of Michigan (2016)

A question I've often thought about.

这是我经常思考的问题。

Is it because there is already far too much content (they as it is reduce 2000 years of history - pre Mughal era - into a 100 page book and add 50 pages more about the Mughal dynasty) and don't want to make the matter even more bulky or is it due to Political reasons.

是不是因为我们的历史太过丰富(他们把2000年的历史——莫卧儿王朝之前——缩减到一本100页的书中,再加上50页关于莫卧儿王朝的内容),他们只是不想让事情变得过于复杂,或者是出于政治原因。

If you follow the news you must have seen our Prime Minister mention Sardar Vallabhai Patel multitude of times recently. And he is right to do so. Our history book the part dealing with independence is riddled with stories relating to Nehru and Gandhi. They definitely deserve their due but Vallabhai Patel played an equally important role; especially in uniting the different provinces of India (you will find many answers on Quora talking in detail about the same). The sheer complexity of this task and its immense importance has always been under-appreciated or completely forgotten in many cases.

如果你关注新闻,你一定看到我们的总理最近多次提到萨达尔·瓦拉巴伊·帕特尔。他这样做是对的。我们的历史书中,关于印度独立的部分充斥着跟尼赫鲁和甘地有关的故事。他们当然应该得到应有的纪念,但瓦拉贝·帕特尔也扮演了同样重要的角色;尤其是在统一印度不同邦领的过程中(你可以在Quora上找到很多答案)。在许多情况下,这项任务的复杂性及其巨大的重要性一直没有得到充分认识,或者可以说被完全遗忘了。

The above was just an example related to the question. Well in answering your original question what I feel is that we have majority of the time been ruled by a Congress Govt. The govt would have a vested interest in making their party seem almighty and how important a role they played in gaining independence (not much dispute in that). But since Independence there have been far too many blunders made by the Congress govt. Nehru's period as PM was riddled with disasters which is hardly ever mentioned(again something you can find innumerable answers about on Quora. No point in me detailing them here again) .

以上只是与问题相关的一个例子。好吧,在回答你最初的问题时,我觉得我们大部分时间都是由国大党政府统治的。政府是既得利益者,要让他们的政党看起来是无所不能的,他们在获得独立方面扮演了多么重要的角色(虽然在这方面没有太多争议)。但是自从独立以来,国大党犯了太多的错误。尼赫鲁在出任总理时期饱受灾难之苦,几乎从未被提及(同样,在Quora上你可以找到无数的答案)。我没必要在这里赘述。

If I recall right the only post independence history taught dealing with India relates to Non-Aligned Movement. To which a scant 4 pages were devoted. No mention is made of the consequences of NAM years down the line.

如果我没记错的话,我对印度独立后的历史唯一学过的与印度的历史与不结盟运动有关。只有不到4页的篇幅。没有提及不结盟运动多年来的后果。

Well by creating a positive image of the Party Congress would be able to influence the adolescents growing up in the country. The adolescents will begin with a positive image for the party and then if they have the interest voluntarily seek out information about what has really been happening since Independence and what is happening now in the political scenario especially regarding Congress.

好吧,通过树立一个积极的党的形象,国大党能够影响在这个国家成长的青少年。青少年们将从党的正面形象开始认知,然后,如果他们感兴趣的话,他们会主动寻找有关独立以来真实发生的事情和当今政坛发生的事情,特别是关于国大党的信息。

In Winstion Churchill's words "History is written by the victors."

用温斯顿·丘吉尔的话说,“历史是由胜利者书写的。”

Krishnan Janardhanan Analyst ex-engineer and Qurious!!

I believe it's all part of the congress propaganda to hide from view gray shades of its past post the independence.

If there was a considerable amount of Indian history post 1947 in out textbooks then it would have to explain the following:

我相信这都是国大党宣传攻势的一部分,在独立后,遮掩过去的灰色阴影。

如果1947年后印度历史教科书中内容很多,那么它就必须解释如下:

1.The rift between sardar vallabhai Patel and Nehru

2.The ugly riots which happened in Punjab and UP and Delhi.

3.How congress initiated and nurtured the groups behind the riots in Punjab.

4.Operation Blue Star and how it was mishandled

5.The emergency and the circumstances around it

6.Boffor's scandal and countless other scandals by Indira Gandhi and family

7.The growing shouts of independence in and around North East India

8.Military actions in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and its consequences

1.萨达尔·瓦拉贝·帕特尔和尼赫鲁之间的裂痕

2.发生在旁遮普省和德里的丑陋骚乱。

3.国大党如何组织和培育旁遮普暴乱的幕后黑手。

4.蓝星行动及不良后果

5.紧急情况及其环境

6.博福丑闻和英迪拉·甘地及其家族的无数其他丑闻

7.印度东北部及周边地区日益高涨的独立呼声

8.在孟加拉国和斯里兰卡的军事行动及其后果

And countless other instances.

Ramchandra Guha's "India after Gandhi" is a brilliant read and provides an unbiased and detailed description of India's history post independence. Things that every India should know

还有其他无数的例子。

拉姆钱德拉·古哈的《甘地之后的印度》是一本精辟的读物,对印度独立后的历史进行了不偏不倚的详细描述。这些都是每个印度人都应该知道的事情。

Hari Govind Indian have read up moderately well on history.

One of the reasons I would say is that the average age of the members of go nment in our country is usually very high well over 60(the go nment this time is a welcome change). Given that these people were born before independence(Modi is the first PM to be born post independence) Obviously there would be a tendency for older people to not think of what happened during their lifetimes as history. People like Advani Vajapayee and Manmohan Singh all were in their prime when the major events of the 60s 70s and 80s happened. Thus they would consider these to be very recent events rather than history. Now that the younger generation that was born after independence is in charge it is being realised that the events in the 50 years following independence are also an important part of history leading to the popularity of books such as India after Gandhi by Ramachandra Guha.

我想说,其中一个原因是,我国政府成员的平均年龄通常很高,远远超过60岁(这次的政府换届是一个可喜的变化)。考虑到这些人出生在独立前(莫迪是第一位独立后出生的首相),很明显,老年人不会把他们经历过的事情当成历史。像阿德瓦尼、瓦杰帕伊和曼莫汉·辛格这样的人,在60年代、70年代和80年代的重大事件发生时,都处于各自的人生巅峰。因此,他们认为这些都是新进发生的事件,并非历史。而现在,独立后出生的年轻一代开始长权,人们开始意识到,独立后50年发生的事件也是历史的重要组成部分,导致拉马钱德拉·古哈的《后甘地时期的印度》等书籍的流行。

Marru Yashwanth lives in Chennai Tamil Nadu India

I believe it is true that they had to scale down all of our history and it may have include some things like post-independence history (68 years vs 3000 years).

我相信这是真的,他们不得不缩编我们所有的历史,可能包含了一些东西,如独立后的历史(68年vs 3000年)。

All the wars mentioned in the question are not a big course altering ones like that of world war or India's first war of independence.

问题中提到的所有战争都不是诸如世界大战或印度第一次独立战争那样改变历史轨迹的大型战争。

These wars are still mentioned somewhere in the text books ( I remember reading about them in High School ). But 1962 India-China war and 1965 India-Pakistan are taught like nothing significant about them. And Kargil war is relatively new and nothing but a minor war which was fought over a border issue.

这些战争仍然在教科书中被提及(我记得在高中时看到过这些战争的介绍)。但1962年的中印战争和1965年的印巴战争,在学校教学中被视为毫无意义的事。卡尔吉尔战争是近代发生的战争,只是一场为了边界问题而爆发的小规模战争。

In High school I never knew that India and Portuguese fought for Goa.

I believe most of our History lessons are taken from Nehru's auto-biography.

在高中的时候,我从来不知道印度和葡萄牙人为了果阿打过仗。

我相信我们大部分的历史知识都是从尼赫鲁的传记中学习到的。

Sarat Chandra

The history to teach children what to do and not do that's it

and how our ancestors are struggled and for what??

That's enough no need to know much if any one interested higher education in history can provide people to know more..

历史教育孩子能做什么,不能做什么,仅此而已。

我们的祖先是如何斗争的,为了什么而斗争??

如果有人对历史的深入了解感兴趣,能让人们知道更多,那就足够了。

Raghav Maheshwari

To inspire the next upcoming generations to love the gandhi-nehru dynasty. Their main long term motive was to brainwash us.

为了让下一代人热爱甘地·尼赫鲁王朝。他们的长期主要动机是给我们洗脑。

Abhilash Singh

Indian history is not complicated it has lots of diversity .

It will take u from Harappan civilization to Mughar period

It will u from mughal to British empire

It has lots of diversity

Which u can only fell only after studying about it

It's very interesting

印度的历史并不复杂,它有丰富的多样性。

它可以让你见识从哈拉帕文明到莫卧儿王朝、从莫卧儿帝国到大英帝国的不同

它有十分丰富的多样性

只有在研究之后你才会爱上它

很有趣

Ankit Godara

These are few reasons.

以下是一些原因。

1.Chronology Crisis: Since ancient times Indians have had a non-linear concept of time. Time was always perceived as a cyclical concept rather than a linear one. Further court historians recorded events with respect to coronation year of their ruler.

E.g. 27th year of reign of Asoka etc.

This has created a chronology Crisis for Indian historians. In contrast ancient European historians usually accurate record of dates and events.

1.年表危机:自古以来,印度人对时间的概念是非线性的。时间总是被认为是一个周期性的概念,而非一个线性的概念。此外,朝廷历史学家还记录了统治者加冕年的事件。

E.g.阿育王统治27年等。

这给印度历史学家造成了一个年代危机。相比之下,古代欧洲历史学家通常精确记录日期和事件。

  1. Politicisation of History

Indian history has been rendered subservient to demends of Nationalism. India has never been a single entity. The idea of India as a nation was basically born during our fre m struggle. Though for brief periods in history India was theoretically ruled by one ruler eg. Ashoka even then society was very feudal.

So now we have this hotch potch attempt by historians to weave together a coherent narrative of one nation and this has created confusion.

2.历史政治化

印度历史已经屈从于民族主义的堕落。印度从来不是一个单一的实体。印度作为一个国家的想法基本上是在我们的自由斗争中诞生的。虽然在历史上很短的一段时间内,印度理论上是由一位统治者如阿育王统治的,但当时的社会还是非常封建的。

因此,现在历史学家们拼凑出了大杂烩,试图编织一个国家的连贯历史,这造成了混乱。

  1. Scope of Indian history

Sub continental size of our courtry with remarkably diverse society has also created complications.

3.印度历史范围

我们国家次大陆的面积之大和多元化的社会也造成了这种复杂的混乱。

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